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    Question Google Spam

    Some people are spammimn to google by hidden text and doorway pages and getting top ranking, Is google technology is not enough to detect this here are the examplw

    Website http://www.thewebbrains.com

    Hidden text used as:-

    <H1 class=h1>Web Designing India, Domain Registration India and designing
    services delhi and Web Hosting India with search engine optimization india
    website hosting.</H1><SPAN class=hosting>Designing website in delhi mumbai
    and website hosting chennai kolkata bangalore india designs. Free Web
    space provider in india and registration. Hosting, Search engine
    optimization delhi and mumbai. Lucknow kanpur web designing and hosting
    services . Usa uk website designing companies - big company india for
    website optimization bombay mumbai delhi and bangalore, lucknow, kanpur,
    noida. Affordable rates designing low cost hosting and website
    registration in india. Low charges and rates affordable price domain
    registration delhi india bangalore and chennai. Website jsp php asp
    hosting windows 2000 linux cheap web hosting india. web site designing and
    registartion registration delhi mumbai kolkata lucknow and designing
    kanpur including pune usa and uk website work bahraich. Web promotion
    india internet services, affordable price and low cost indian firm company
    new delhi kolkata mumbai bombay. India Web Hosting, Web cheap web pages
    designing india webdesigning usa uk webhosting india, lucknow kanpur
    industries factories. Noida nagpur bahraich, meerut kerala hosting
    chandigarh punjab "domain name registration" amritsar noida industry
    factory indian city and asp web hosting with php my sql and jsp windows
    server reseller packages delhi, lucknow, kanpur uttar pradesh, bahraich.
    search optimization and ranking promotion in Lucknow hosting Kanpur -
    Florida registration Canada - USA UK indian company hosting and website
    designing firm, companies delhi and mumbai and bangalore, florida -
    </SPAN><SPAN class=hosting><FONT color=navy face=Verdana size=5>Usa and Uk
    web designing cheap affordable rates web designs and web designers in
    india mumbai with high ranking in google and yahoo - web promotion india
    and website ranking affordable prices india site optimization.</FONT>
    Guaranteed website optimization for higher search engine ranking
    optimisation in india uk and usa -los angeles - canada - florida - san
    diego - switzerland web designing... </SPAN>

    By using text color code black in style sheet

    And see dooray pages like thousand of this site which google is ranking first

    http://www.thewebbrains.com/website-hosting-designing-registration/mumbai-hosting-designing.htm

    It seems that google technology is becoming poor that such people are getting top ranking with hidden text and doorway pages

    Steve
    Last edited by HTML; 07-25-2003 at 08:47 PM.

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    Hello Steve, welcome to the forums.

    You can rest assured that Google is aware of this site and that it will not last too much longer. The problem with combating search engine spam, lays in the fact that it is so common a search engine just cannot work on fighting spam on a site by site basis. The only way to make progress is to fight the method and not the man, in other words when a site is reported for spam at http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html Google looks at the site and its spam methods and eventually incorporates the "cure" into its algo. thus eliminating everybody that incorporates this method in one swoop. Though this method is really the only possible way to fight the bums, it has a negative effect in that as they stay on top of the results while waiting for the ban others believe the spammer is getting away with it and follow the leader.

    How do I know they are being dealt with, I'll never tell

    Dave

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    Dear Webmasters

    I have reported many times at this URl

    http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

    But no body is taking care, and also see this party which is making same

    http://www.hugehostingdeals.com/countries/IN-hosting/CHANDIGARH-hosting/

    Steve



    Quote Originally Posted by Dave
    Hello Steve, welcome to the forums.

    You can rest assured that Google is aware of this site and that it will not last too much longer. The problem with combating search engine spam, lays in the fact that it is so common a search engine just cannot work on fighting spam on a site by site basis. The only way to make progress is to fight the method and not the man, in other words when a site is reported for spam at http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html Google looks at the site and its spam methods and eventually incorporates the "cure" into its algo. thus eliminating everybody that incorporates this method in one swoop. Though this method is really the only possible way to fight the bums, it has a negative effect in that as they stay on top of the results while waiting for the ban others believe the spammer is getting away with it and follow the leader.

    How do I know they are being dealt with, I'll never tell

    Dave
    Last edited by HTML; 07-29-2003 at 04:11 PM.

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    Hi Steve,

    Since when have you been reporting? I've heard it may taken ages but I've also heard that new or special spam filters are run agains reported sites.

    Another thing is: Google may nog consider the same thing spam as you do. If a site is doing well for a relevant phrase Google might not care they are using spammy techniques as long as the user is not mislead and gets a relevant site.

    HitProf

    Quote Originally Posted by Stevehouston
    Dear Webmasters

    I have reported many times at this URl

    http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

    But no body is taking care, and also see this party which is making same

    http://www.hugehostingdeals.com/countries/IN-hosting/CHANDIGARH-hosting/

    Steve
    Last edited by HTML; 07-29-2003 at 04:11 PM.

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    Smile good

    i talked to the owner of webbrains. he said that he was unaware of that it is google spam as he is new in this field .
    so he wil remove it and will put a new design on his site with no spam as i maked him to read the spam guidellines on googles website.

    I think he will keep his words..

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    Quote Originally Posted by designer321
    i talked to the owner of webbrains. he said that he was unaware of that it is google spam as he is new in this field .
    so he wil remove it and will put a new design on his site with no spam as i maked him to read the spam guidellines on googles website.

    I think he will keep his words..


    lol, he sure did not use hidden text for the user, why do you think it was done if not to spam? I would seriously love to know.

    The design is only a fraction of the problem, what about the probably 100s if not thousands of doorways.

    ps I removed the link to your homepage "thewebbrains.com" it is destined for the spam heap at google and I do not want to be flagged for linking to bad neighborhoods.

    Dave

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    All of the edits in this thread were only for the purpose of removing links to the spammer.

    dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by designer321
    i talked to the owner of webbrains. he said that he was unaware of that it is google spam as he is new in this field .
    ...I think he will keep his words..
    Ok you are not the owner lol, I went and looked at your spam site again and am having a hard time getting over the fact that you want $290 for Google SEO work and are "unaware of that it is google spam...new in this field". My advice, tell "the owner" to get the hell out of the business.

    Members, please do your research before giving anybody monies for anything on the net, If you are not sure about a SEO company, a web hosting company, designer or anything else, just let us know and we will research for you! My research tells me to avoid this "company" like the plaque!

    Dave

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    The hidden Text and Doorway Pages are increasing day by day. Following is more by http://www.thewebbrains.com/ and being getting higher by google.

    Can anyone let me know how to get punished this website, i mean to say any other way to report spam and any other options on the internet to get justice


    "<H1 class=h1>Web Designing India, Web Hosting India and designing services delhi and Web Hosting Domain Registration India with search engine optimization india website hosting.</H1><Span class=h1>Designing website in delhi mumbai and website hosting chennai kolkata bangalore india designs and optimization. Free Web space provider in india and registration. Hosting, Search engine optimization delhi and mumbai. Lucknow kanpur web designing and hosting services . Usa uk website designing companies - big company india for website optimization bombay mumbai delhi and bangalore, lucknow, kanpur, noida. Affordable rates designing low cost hosting and website registration in india. Low charges and rates affordable price domain registration delhi india bangalore and chennai. Website jsp php asp hosting windows 2000 linux cheap web hosting india. web site designing and registartion registration delhi mumbai kolkata lucknow and designing kanpur including pune usa and uk website work bahraich. Web promotion india internet services, affordable price and low cost indian firm company new delhi kolkata mumbai bombay. India Web Hosting, Web cheap web pages designing india webdesigning usa uk webhosting india, lucknow kanpur industries factories. Noida nagpur bahraich, meerut kerala hosting chandigarh punjab &quot;domain name registration&quot; amritsar noida industry factory indian city and asp web hosting with php my sql and jsp windows server reseller packages delhi, lucknow, kanpur uttar pradesh, bahraich. search optimization and ranking promotion in Lucknow hosting Kanpur - Florida registration Canada - USA UK indian company hosting and website designing firm, companies delhi and mumbai and bangalore, florida - </span><SPAN class=hosting><FONT face=Verdana color=navy size=5>Usa and Uk web designing cheap affordable rates web designs and web designers in india mumbai with high ranking in google and yahoo - web promotion india and website ranking affordable prices india site optimization.</FONT> Guaranteed website optimization for higher search engine ranking optimisation in india uk and usa -los angeles - canada - florida - san diego - switzerland web designing... </SPAN>"

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    http://www.internationalnetcasino.com Google Spam, Site Should be banned

    http://www.internationalnetcasino.com/ website is also using the same technicqe as http://www.thewebbrains.com This website is using a lot of hidden text with H1 class in the source code, which is not as per www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html

    I have also submitted the spam report to www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html The hidden text is as give below:-
    ------------------------------
    <h1 class=h1>
    Online ****** &nbsp;Internet Gambling online, Sportsbook Internet ****** Better Odds
    Internet Sportsbook Online Gambling than Vegas and Cash-back online on this ****** Gambling
    Sportsbook website
    </h1>

    <p style="line-height:1%; margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;"><span class=h2>This site provides excellent online ****** Internet gambling resource
    where you can get better than Las Vegas returns. When you play <b>Internet ******</b>,
    your pleasure is enhanced by the extra returns that you can get by Online gambling
    online on this las vegas website. For the maximum returns, gambling online sportsbook
    internet on this ****** on
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    your fate? You will find our <b>******</b> services as better than other ******
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    sure for winning. Everyday thousands of people log on to our website and don't
    go like loosers, they get atleast something from our internet gambling. So we
    request you try your luck here and get rich in just one day<a href="http://www.internationalnetcasino.com/directory.htm">Directory of Internet online ****** Online Sportsbook internet Gambling Internet Sportsbook Directory</a><a href="http://www.internationalnetcasino.com/online_gambling_portals2.htm"><b><font color="red">online gambling resources</font></b></a></span>

    <p align="center" style="line-height:1%; margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Las vegas is the mecca of online ****** and internet gambling.
    People come here to try their luck. However you don't need to go any where just
    use our website and you can plau ****** and gambling online sportsbook. Internet gambling could not be better - better than Las Vegas
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    <h2 class=h2>Online ****** Internet Gambling Online Sportsbook</h2>
    ----------------------------------

    I hope that the top search engine should ban this website soon...

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    Cool ??

    i cant found any spam or doorway pages on thewebbrains?? [FONT=Arial Black][COLOR=DarkGreen]

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    Oliveglobal? Last time you were in this thread it was under the name designer321, I will be sure to remove this newest name later after I get home.

    I am curious as to why last time you were here you knew of the spam, now you say you do not see it. Of course this does make the name change easy to understand. Sadly your "defense" has only made the site(which I am certain is yours) and your ethics look even worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave
    Ok you are not the owner lol, I went and looked at your spam site again and am having a hard time getting over the fact that you want $290 for Google SEO work and are "unaware of that it is google spam...new in this field". My advice, tell "the owner" to get the hell out of the business.

    Members, please do your research before giving anybody monies for anything on the net, If you are not sure about a SEO company, a web hosting company, designer or anything else, just let us know and we will research for you! My research tells me to avoid this "company" like the plaque!

    Dave
    Are SEO company's really worth the money? i mean if you do some research you can find massive amounts of information out there that can allow you to do it for yourself for *ree... or you can even get some really good books such as the one written by Michael Wong, owner of mikes marketing tools. This is a really good search engine optimization book and at a price that doesnt break the bank.

    I just think there is to many scams out there, and at the end of the day alot of these SEO companys use techniques that in the end get you banned from the search engines, ive been trying a few, one is the doorway pages... i saw my site go up pretty high in the rankings and then go back down again because the doorway generators are spewing out spam riddled pages...

    Ive starting writing my own doorway page script, only im aiming for creating content rich pages but high in relevance to your keywords and without the redirect scripts! I have finished the coding for it just trying to build a decent template for it and then write a guide explaining about the advantage of a content rich page rather that a page riddled with spam....

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    Re: Google Spam

    I see this is an ancient topic, but sadly the problem seems to be as great as ever - probably greater.

    I've been filing spam reports to google for months about online gambling sites which keep clogging up the google search results.

    A typical example - a moment ago I searched for "antique machine restoration" and hit four poker-****** sites on the first two pages. They're using all the dirty tricks - multiple entry pages, spoofed text links, redirects etc.

    What I don't undertand is why google doesn't simply remove the domain names from their index (888.com and www.goldenpalace.com are two of the biggest offenders).

    Is there a financial incentive that prompts google to allow these sites to compromise the search engine's efficiency?
    Last edited by HTML; 06-11-2005 at 02:35 PM. Reason: remove link to mentioned spammer

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    Re: Google Spam

    This is what I see when I do that search
    1 - on topic
    2 - on topic
    3 - made for adsense scraper site
    4 - antique sewing machines
    5 - indented result from above
    6 - ****** page
    7 - indented result from above
    8 - 500 error

    repeat the search with the omitted results included.
    from 9 on all ****** spam.


    There is a reason why domains are not just deleted, the reason is they would rather work smarter than harder. By deleting domains they first have to verify every reported domain is indeed spamming, and they are not all spamming through the same methods. So it is verified that it is indeed a spammer, well as we all know there are hundreds others using the same method. Why block the domain, they will get another and continue the same spam. Block the method and you block hundreds of others, and you can bet that a DB of domains that were banned by the algo change is kept for later. Of course the downfall is that the filter may not go into effect for months. Regardless, I would rather spray for bugs once a month than spend all day, every day, stepping on them one at a time.

    Cleaning the serps will never be complete, there will always be spammers, but reporting sites does pay off. Webbrains, though listed is now cleaned up. Dont get me wrong I still would not trust somebody that only cleaned up because they were caught, and then comes here under multiple names lying about it. The other listed website is now wiped off the face of the WWW.

    It works, just takes lots of time.

    Dave



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