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  • Yes, I had heard of this issue before and I'm outraged!

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  • Yes, I've heard of this before and frankly couldn't care less.

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  1. #76
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    Is this the same company?


    http://www.cnn.com/BUSINESS/virtual/test/article.html
    Last edited by HTML; 03-20-2007 at 01:18 PM.

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    Good sluething JE!!! Yes, it is. It sounds more like Gator than Surf+ or TopText though. The original article made it sound like all 3.

    I wonder....

    Off to sleuth.

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    WHOIS info for that domain:
    Registrant:
    Advocate Systems (MELTINGPOINT-DOM)
    350 Townsend St Ste 200
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    US

    Domain Name: MELTINGPOINT.COM

    Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
    DNS (DN1079-ORG)
    XTML
    Portland Tower
    Portland Street
    Manchester
    UNITED KINGDOM
    +44 161 2332264
    Fax- +44 161 950 7995

    Record last updated on 18-Apr-2001.
    Record expires on 27-Jan-2003.
    Record created on 25-Jan-1997.
    Database last updated on 28-Aug-2001 02:16:00 EDT.

    Domain servers in listed order:

    NS0.XTML.CO.UK 195.226.32.20
    NS1.XTML.CO.UK 195.226.32.21

    and ezula.com:
    TopText (www.ezula.com)
    Kabanga, Corp.
    555 Florida St. #407
    San Francisco, CA 94110

    Henkin, Assaf (AH10782)
    Kabanga
    301 20th Ave.
    san Francisco , CA 94121
    415-668-7282 (FAX) 415-668-7282

    Hmmmm...strange?
    Last edited by HTML; 03-20-2007 at 01:19 PM.

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    g'day!

    Thanks for the warm welcome everyone And HI! new arrivals, glad you found us

    i headed over here to inform about meltingpot. these #$%!@^% are coming out of the wood work & most seem to have been in development for more than a year.

    I noticed that pi$$, er, I mean, meltingpot has some of its partners listed. I was thinking (yeah, dangerous) it might be worthwhile to send the partners a couple articles relating to contextual advertising and recent developments and ask them not to participate in a program that tracks user (my lord, did you read WHAT the technology pi$$pot has developed does?) movements and steals from site operators. And let them know the partnership could be detrimental to their image. (translates:bottomline) If it looks like a pile of trouble they're getting into, they may have a change of heart.

    I'm asking because I'm concerned that since they are not actually "live" with the software, pi$$pot could take the position that we are harrassing their customers. It is the position I would take.

    And, I don't have the time to get letters out. The next couple weeks are very busy for me in RL, I'll be lucky to contribute something daily.

    BTW, I went on at length about e-mailing people yesterday so newbies, untill templates are ready, have some format from which to work so they can DO something right away.

    Later good people! Keep the heat up HIGH!!
    RRR (really rank rhonda?)

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    J Esquire welcome to the forums you brought up a very good point in regards to GHF encouraging his members to go steal others visitors away. I have encouraged our members to participate both here and there. I made TONS of posts to various forums, and always gave this url as well as the url of GHF. I think it will be interesting to see how the next week or two will work out over there.

    I read the CNN article, they did not pull any punches.
    A software product that allows ISPs and Internet cafes to place ads over existing banners on Web pages has been launched. The system is intended to divert revenue away from content providers and towards those who control access to the Internet.
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    Has surf+ also gone invisible?

    invisible links with Surf+? It looks that way.

    Let me clarify that I DO NOT have surf+ I did try to install it and TopText last week neither would take and all files have been deleted. To prove to myself that it is not on my system I just did a ctrl-alt-del to see what programs I have running, nothing out of the ordinary.

    ok, now I go to copy and paste some text on the forums, ...highlight text, right click...oops I accidently did a double left click...
    http://www.filemix.net/cgi-bin/?run=splus&page=splus.htm&key=;navyeditor;

    I can double click ANY of the text on this site and off I go

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    Re: Has surf+ also gone invisible?

    Originally posted by Dave
    invisible links with Surf+? It looks that way.

    Let me clarify that I DO NOT have surf+ I did try to install it and TopText last week neither would take and all files have been deleted. To prove to myself that it is not on my system I just did a ctrl-alt-del to see what programs I have running, nothing out of the ordinary.

    ok, now I go to copy and paste some text on the forums, ...highlight text, right click...oops I accidently did a double left click...
    http://www.filemix.net/cgi-bin/?run=splus&page=splus.htm&key=;navyeditor;

    I can double click ANY of the text on this site and off I go

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    Oh Dave, I was over at msnbc trying to sell some commonsense and the same thing happened to me, although at the time I had surf installed, I hit a word which was not hyperlinked and it jumped...

    You had better check your registry for surf, it will be lurking there
    Last edited by HTML; 03-20-2007 at 01:20 PM.

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    Re: Has surf+ also gone invisible?

    Originally posted by Dave
    invisible links with Surf+? It looks that way.

    Let me clarify that I DO NOT have surf+ I did try to install it and TopText last week neither would take and all files have been deleted. To prove to myself that it is not on my system I just did a ctrl-alt-del to see what programs I have running, nothing out of the ordinary.

    ok, now I go to copy and paste some text on the forums, ...highlight text, right click...oops I accidently did a double left click...
    http://www.filemix.net/cgi-bin/?run=splus&page=splus.htm&key=;navyeditor;

    I can double click ANY of the text on this site and off I go

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    Oh hell, yes....we just went from bad to worse. Now the whole damned page is a Surf+ link. When you double click any where on the page it takes you to a filemix.net url. Highlights it like a edit->copy->paste.

    Now, this adds a new dimension to the security issue.....if you've filled out the form (or any sensitive information portion) and you accidently double click, what happens to the info????

    While filling out my CC form, I double clicked on the word "required" then went to this url:

    http://www.filemix.net/cgi-bin/tz.cgi?run=splus&page=splus.htm&key=;required;

    Let's look at that url:
    http://www.filemix.net/cgi-bin/tz.cgi - runs a back door program called tz.cgi

    ?run=splus - if command run equals splus

    &page=splus.htm - the cached (altered version of the page?) where's the data coming from? cache? with the data filled in?

    &key=;required; - the keyword clicked on

    So definitely MORE than the required keyword is being transferred to the filmix server.

    Boy, we are in trrrrrouble now!

    All we've done is force them into hiding.
    Last edited by HTML; 03-20-2007 at 01:21 PM.

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    Wooa...my first reaction RoxanneJ was to say your kidding..!
    But your obviously not, I thought for awhile what happened to me was just an isolated case, then Dave mentioned it, now you.

    I think the Interactive Advertising Bureau should hear about this considering their stance with gator and ezula.

    The dirtier they play the more desperate they're getting.

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    OK, we conducted tests on 2 computers, here are the findings:

    Computer #1 - we tried to install Surf+ on this machine several times; the installation failed repeatedly. We followed instructions for complete removal found at (despaeately looking for this UL will post it the moment we find it.)....

    Double clicking on any word on a previously tested page failed to produce a filemix.net redirection.

    Computer #2 - not on the network, never has been. Surf+ never touched this machine. Double clicking on any word on a previously tested page failed to produce a filemix.net redirection.

    Bottom line - Dave Surf+ IS on your machine in some manner. I will find that url for a complete cleanup. Will post shortly.

    If Surf+ IS installed, double clicking on any word, on any page results in a filemix.net redirection.

    This is amazing!!!!

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    Here's the url Dave and RoxanneJ
    http://www.whirlywiryweb.com/removesurfplus.htm
    Last edited by HTML; 03-20-2007 at 01:21 PM.

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    We followed the instructions at this url to remove Surf+ completely.

    http://www.whirlywiryweb.com/removesurfplus.htm

    Thank you whirlywiryweb.com!!!
    Last edited by HTML; 03-20-2007 at 01:22 PM.

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    Yes, we have some great people on our side

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    I will try to uninstall it again tomorrow. Thaks for the test

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    OUR Roxanne????

    IZ THAT YOU LIVE ON C-NET???

    YOU GOOOOO GIRL!!!!!!!!



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