Frame center

[Darksushi]

how do i center something so its not only centered width wise but also height wise?
like if i have a frame with nothing else on the page
i want that frame to be in the exact middle of the page

[TurnkeySites]

what are you talking about here a form like in the middle or do you want the webpage really in frames, id have to get some more details to help you here i need more specfics or to see a web page your working on

[Darksushi]

wut i mean is
you know how u can center the stuff inside of a table with <TR VALIGN=MIDDLE>
well i want to center the actual frame in the middle of the page both horizontally and vertically

[ALL]

here:

<table border="0" width="100%">
  <td height="1000" align="center" valign="middle"><table width="60"><td>hello</td></table></td>
</table>

[Darksushi]

thats not exactly what im looking for
that will center it on the page, but people might have different size viewing areas due to extra toolbars on the top, etc

what i want is if someone is has a viewing area of 1000 pixels high on their browser and another person has a 800 pixel high viewing area on a different browser, they both see the page exactly centered

the problem im running into is when i use ur code
is the <td height> which would need to be adjusted depending on how large the veiwing area is for that person

is there any equivalence of width="100%" for height?

{edit}
heres a site that does this
gotwoot.net
even if u add or remove toolbars, use different browsers, and such
it stays centered vertically

[ALL]

oh, that is a quick fix:

<table border="0" height=100% width="100%">
  <td align="center" valign="middle"><table width="60"><td>hello</td></table></td>
</table>