Another table help thread<<<<<

**catokid** · 03-05-2002, 07:30 PM

ok here is my problem i dont know how to align a table to the left of the page and then still have text in the center to the right of the table. Also i was wanting to know how to be able to put music as a background when people go to my website.

Here is the HTML of the website no worrys about the images or links except i want to know what percent or how many pixels would it be to make a picture for a banner across the top.

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Fran's HELLA COOL Page</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY BACKGROUND="D:\Program Files\Spaceports\stars.gif" Link="#eef748">
<CENTER>
<font color="#ff0000">

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="750"width="100">
<tr>
<td valign="top"><table border="0" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0" width="125">
<tr>
<td bgcolor="#146c7e"><A HREF="games.html">Games</A>
</tr>

<tr>
<td bgcolor="#146c7e"><A HREF="school.html">School</A>
</tr>

<tr>
<td bgcolor="#146c7e"><A HREF="funnypics.html">Funny Picture's</A>
</tr>

<tr>
<td bgcolor="#146c7e"><A HREF="jokes.html">Riddles & Jokes</A>
</tr>

<tr>
<td bgcolor="#146c7e"><A HREF="beau.html">The Famous Beau</A>
</tr>

<tr>
<td bgcolor="#146c7e"><A HREF="Fran.html">Fran</A>
</tr>

<tr>
<td bgcolor="#146c7e"><A HREF="http://pub26.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=2181615097&cpv=1">Fran's Forum</A>
</tr>

<tr>
<td bgcolor="#146c7e"><A HREF="http://pub26.bravenet.com/guestbook/show.php?usernum=2181615097&cpv=1">Fran's Guestbook</A>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</table>

<H1>Welcome</H1>

<H2>to my site</H2>

<H2>which will be all about me,</H2>

<font color="#09fd02"><BR><B><I><BIG><FONT SIZE="7"> Fran </font color="#09fd02"></BIG></B></I></FONT SIZE="7">
</CENTER>

<P ALIGN=center>Ok, ok, ok, im trying to get all the links up as fast as i can(making boozz pics top priority now). I have the jokes page up now and
and will be updating it weekly. Also, with the contacts page up if u want to put your
email or a cool website on it let me know.BEAU NEEDS TO REMEMBER THE PICTURES!!!!AND dont be shy about posting
on forum everyone. Lastly i D0 know u who are Sam.....I was at the dance....Your Beau's Ch!ck < : )
Thanks for your support<BR> The recent problems on my website if that some of u might have faced is due to
Bravenet being down. Since i have a hit counter, forum, and guestbook from there none work. Im not sure when
they'll be back up but until then Im sorry its out of my control im looking into it though. Just hold tight and
bravenet should be back up soon.
~Fran.</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<Center>
<IMG SRC="D:\Program Files\Spaceports\Banner Copy.gif">
</Center>
</font color="#ff0000">

</H3>
</CENTER>

</BODY>
</HTML>

**catokid** · 03-05-2002, 07:32 PM

Im trying to get the Welcome to my website, all about me Fran.... up higher so as it will be at the same level on the page with the table insted of the table being above it and there being a big gap.

**Derek** · 03-05-2002, 08:28 PM

Wow lol that code was messy. Well tell me if this is what you were looking for:

Code:

<html> 
<head> 
<title>Fran's HELLA COOL Page</title> 
</head> 
<body background="D:\Program Files\Spaceports\stars.gif" link="#eef748"> 

<table width="75%" border="0" align="center">
<tr>
<td>

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="90%" border="0"> 
<tr> 
<td valign="top" bgcolor="#146c7e">
<a href="games.html">Games</a> 
<br>
<a href="school.html">School</a> 
<br>
<a href="funnypics.html">Funny Picture's</a> 
<br>
<a href="jokes.html">Riddles & Jokes</a>
<br>
<a href="beau.html">The Famous Beau</a> 
<br>
<a href="Fran.html">Fran</a> 
<br>
<a href="http://pub26.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=2181615097&cpv=1">Fran's Forum</a> 
<br>
<a href="http://pub26.bravenet.com/guestbook/show.php?usernum=2181615097&cpv=1">Fran's Guestbook</a> 
</td>
<td valign="top">
<center>
<font size="6">
Welcome
<br>
to my site
<br>
which will be all about me,
</font>
<font color="#09fd02" size="7">
<br>
Fran
</font> 
</center>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

</td>
</tr>
</table>


<table border="0" align="left">
<tr>
<td>
<P ALIGN=center>Ok, ok, ok, im trying to get all the links up as fast as i can(making boozz pics top priority now). I have the jokes page up now and 
and will be updating it weekly. Also, with the contacts page up if u want to put your 
email or a cool website on it let me know.BEAU NEEDS TO REMEMBER THE PICTURES!!!!AND dont be shy about posting 
on forum everyone. Lastly i D0 know u who are Sam.....I was at the dance....Your Beau's Ch!ck < : ) 
Thanks for your support<BR> The recent problems on my website if that some of u might have faced is due to 
Bravenet being down. Since i have a hit counter, forum, and guestbook from there none work. Im not sure when 
they'll be back up but until then Im sorry its out of my control im looking into it though. Just hold tight and 
bravenet should be back up soon. 
~Fran.</P> 
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<center> 
<img src="D:\Program Files\Spaceports\Banner Copy.gif"> 
</center>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

</body> 
</html>

and you seam to be thinking that if you have a font tag <font color=black> you have to close it with a </font color=black> when all you have to do is have the </font>

**Derek** · 03-05-2002, 08:31 PM

oh ya music is:

<embed src="blah.midi" loop=true hidden=true>

**benzden** · 03-06-2002, 01:00 AM

When you want images to the left or right of text, you don't need a table. But, tables can help create blank spacing easier than HSPACE= or adjacent char #160`s can. Here's how one can have image, space, text, space, image - assuming the images are narrow enough to fit and still allow the spaces and text

<TR><TD><IMG SRC=image1.gif>
<TD>0000
<TD>text that you want in the middle
<TD>0000
<TD><IMG SRC=image2.gif></TD></TR>

I've left out the ALT= BORDER= WIDTH= HEIGHT= and closing </TD> tags for each cell (they really aren't required if the <TABLE ...> isn't nested inside another <TABLE ...>).

Replace the 0000 with char #160`s via the ALT keypad or using the & #160 ; convention (without the spaces shown here to make it display.

**Derek** · 03-06-2002, 01:52 AM

Though that may be true (I think, don't really get what ur sayin lol), using tables, I think especially for someone newer, is better practice and easier to format anyways.

**catokid** · 03-06-2002, 08:17 PM

ok ok heh yea i am a newbie and i can see how it was sloppy now thanks for saving me a lot of extra CRAP on the HTML derek heh.

Also, that is almost exactly what i want but i wanted to table with links at the far left not with a space there

Im trying to figure out how to get it there and keep Welcome..... in the center to the left of it

Ill post here saying if i figured it out but if not then could u tell me how to get it there

**catokid** · 03-06-2002, 08:19 PM

oh forgot to say thank you heh thank you thank u

**Derek** · 03-06-2002, 08:26 PM

maybe it's an alignment issue. Try making the table 100% and aligning different thigns using <p align="...">. Anyways not exactly sure what your sayin so post if you still can't figure it out.

**benzden** · 03-06-2002, 08:35 PM

What you're trying to do IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT!

Placing links in any cell via the images or text is the same as anywhere else on the page.

Provide the URL to your testing "work in progress" page and explain what isn't the way you want it to be. Then, it may be easier to provide the exact coding needed to accomplish what you want.

**Derek** · 03-06-2002, 08:40 PM

What is easy for some is difficult for others. My mom tried learning HTML(for fun in college) and was oblivious to the easiest commands. Patience must be kept for those that are slower learners, HTML can be very difficult to some. Yes, he must learn to work with tables better, but thats what these forums are for, to learn.

**Derek** · 03-06-2002, 08:55 PM

Is this what you wanted? Kinda had to change the code around:

Code:

<html> 
<head> 
<title>Fran's HELLA COOL Page</title> 
</head> 
<body background="D:\Program Files\Spaceports\stars.gif" link="#eef748"> 

<table width="100%" border="0" align="left">
<tr>
<td valign="top" bgcolor="#146c7e" width="15%">
<a href="games.html">Games</a> 
<br>
<a href="school.html">School</a> 
<br>
<a href="funnypics.html">Funny Picture's</a> 
<br>
<a href="jokes.html">Riddles & Jokes</a>
<br>
<a href="beau.html">The Famous Beau</a>
<br>
<a href="Fran.html">Fran</a> 
<br>
<a href="http://pub26.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=2181615097&cpv=1">Fran's Forum</a> 
<br>
<a href="http://pub26.bravenet.com/guestbook/show.php?usernum=2181615097&cpv=1">Fran's 

Guestbook</a> 
</td>
<td valign="top" align="center">
<font size="6">
Welcome
<br>
to my site
<br>
which will be all about me,
</font>
<font color="#09fd02" size="7">
<br>
Fran
</font> 
</td>
<td width="15%">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="3">
<P ALIGN=center>Ok, ok, ok, im trying to get all the links up as fast as i can(making boozz 

pics top priority now). I have the jokes page up now and 
and will be updating it weekly. Also, with the contacts page up if u want to put your 
email or a cool website on it let me know.BEAU NEEDS TO REMEMBER THE PICTURES!!!!AND dont be 

shy about posting 
on forum everyone. Lastly i D0 know u who are Sam.....I was at the dance....Your Beau's Ch!ck 

< : ) 
Thanks for your support<BR> The recent problems on my website if that some of u might have 

faced is due to 
Bravenet being down. Since i have a hit counter, forum, and guestbook from there none work. Im 

not sure when 
they'll be back up but until then Im sorry its out of my control im looking into it though. 

Just hold tight and 
bravenet should be back up soon. 
~Fran.</P> 
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<center> 
<img src="D:\Program Files\Spaceports\Banner Copy.gif"> 
</center>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

</body> 
</html>

**catokid** · 03-07-2002, 04:07 PM

thanks Derek that was basically what i was looking for i tweaked it a bit but it helpped a lot thanks.

And derek u were a Newb once too so plz dont critize after all this is HTML Help not HTML MEANIES!!!! heh

Thanks

**Derek** · 03-07-2002, 05:09 PM

I thought about reposting my thoughts in a better way I didn't actually mean to criticize. It is a fact that some learners are faster than others, I think I was in the middle, but hey you could actually be fast and I didn' t know it. I was actually kinda tellin benzden not to criticize you and I did it myself lol. I'm sorry, I was kinda havin a...not so good day... and wasn't in such a great mood. I went to far with my message of "patience", sorry.

**benzden** · 03-07-2002, 06:45 PM

That's why I ignore posts like that one. If we didn't want to help others, we wouldn't be here - regardless of our communication skills. And, rather than beating around the bush, getting to the point of the problem will usually solve it faster.

And, in case anyone hasn't noticed, I'm not about to write someone's code for them. Just my personal teaching and learning method.

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