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    kazzalite?

    Wow! What can I say Dave! Am I disillUSIONED!
    Greetings from Dallas! Wishing I were in the Hillcountry with a little acreage on the Rio Frio! Maybe you are luckier than you think!!!
    I am trying to generate a little income up here in the Silicone Wasteland so that I don't have to rejoin the ranks when the good old gov't decides to come back online with it's contracts once the boys come home.
    I'm new to this of course, so in my ignorance, I thought CJ might be on of the many ways to go. However, my intuition told me to do a little searching and that is how I found this thread.
    So, let's forget the idea of any sizeable profit from such affliate programs. Are there any other trends going on that one can get in on such as web host reselling or domain name reselling? Or are these just mere drips in the bucket next to CJ???
    If one wants to be self-employed so that they can leave the Big D and head south to the homeland of endangered species and trickling aquifers, what would you suggest?
    I have noticed web designers selling templates and such for the less artistic or the legions of left-brained individuals in our world. Actually, now that I think about it, that may not be such a good market since reality is that majority of people in this world are left-brained and big brother is trying to cram all of us into those right brained cubicles so that he can go off and play...
    I am open to suggestions!

    P.S. I have the old Kazaa installed from PreProhibition days... is this Kazaalite something different or am I still up a creek...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave
    Sounds like you may have downloaded kazzalite, if so they have altered your hosts file blocking many sites from you.

    Dave

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    wow lots of ground to cover, first I will point you to a very long discussion on kazza http://www.ahfb2000.com/webmaster_he...read.php?t=301 It would be a great idea for you read as much of the thread as you can it will answer many questions you may have about affiliate marketing. You should also keep in mind, that although the thread is generally about kazza and its features, kazza is only one of MANY that have thrown up an affiliate roadblock.

    As of late the money has been in search as is evident by companies such as Yahoo(yhoo), Ask Jeeves(askj) Overture(over) and Findwhat(fwht). Translated for the typical webmaster means content sites are more valuable than ever, especially with the introduction of Googles Adsense.

    I had considered partnering with a template site, Template Monster is all over the place and they have a great selection for fair prices. Lately the site has been down as much as it has been up, and I have also read numerous complaints about no or slow payment and terrible stats.

    In regards to hosting and domains, personally I would avoid becoming a hosting reseller unless you have really and I mean REALLY studied the business. Domains are not so bad, but do not expect to retire from it.

    If I had to give advice to a newbie who wanted to get involved in the net but was unsure if the exact direction, I would suggest avoiding the sales pages for affiliate programs and to stick with content sites. This is of course a much slower route but in the long run will pay off. Mens health and credit counseling are currently amongst the most profitable.

    Dave

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    thanks so much!

    That is a great answer Dave! I really appreciate that. You were very thorough and gave me some really good direction on how to proceed. I can't thank you enough!
    I will read the thread you gave me and do some more studying. As far as what my goals are, I expect that I will have to keep myself busy in several different areas generating just a small income in each. Keeping volume up is my goal. I think that the more diversity I have the less likely things will crash unpredictably. Kind of like the stock market approach of not putting all your eggs in one basket. My plan is to do a little web designing, some affiliate stuff here and there, and whateverelse I feel is profitable for that moment in time. I do have another professions outside the computer world that keeps money trickling in so I would not be wholly dependent on any one thing.
    I certainly don't expect to retire on any of these things so I feel my expectations are in line. I just want to be able to put a roof over my head and food on the table while I am focusing on a book that I am writing and photographing. I just don't want to go back to the 9 to 5. I will never get my book finished if I do that and writing this book is my dream that has been too long coming.
    I am very interested in your mention of the content sites. There is a site called About.com that has a pop up called Sprint. I don't know what the cost is or if this is an affiliate program or not. Maybe you have some insight into that dea.
    Thanks so much, I will keep in touch after I finish the reading that you suggested. By the way, I uploades a LOTR avatar for my profile but I don't see it showing up. Is there a trick to this? Have a great weekend!

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    sory dont know why your avatar has not shown, may want to try again.

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    Thanks for that response. I got the avatar resized - it was just a couple pixels over the limit

    I double checked my system and can happily say I don't have any scumware. My Kazaa is two years old and that is why apparently. I never upgrade to the newest versions of that type program because upgrades usually mean more restriction and the benefits are mostly for the software company and not for the end user.

    I found an article on removing some additional scumware programs that no one has mentioned. http://websearch.about.com/b/a/029181.htm?terms=scumware

    Regarding my preparation for web host reselling, You said
    <<I would avoid becoming a hosting reseller unless you have really and I mean REALLY studied the business. >>

    I have researched the issue as far as how to support my customers and such. I am a database programmer so I a familiar with those sort of things. Would you give me some key words to use to search the internet and also tell me specifically what I am looking for. Are there certain organizations or certain types of web sites that cover this information?
    I would love it if you could go into detail on what topics you feel that I really need to study so I can cover all my bases. Thanks a million for all your guidance.

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    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/index.php is a fairly good resource. The fluff to fact ratio is fairly high but with some common sense it can be seperated.

    what topics you feel that I really need to study so I can cover all my bases.
    My main concern is the cut throat nature of the industry and how it seems to affect so many into choosing poor business plans. Right now the industries image is at an all time low, well deserved I might add. The barriers to entry are so low that most hosts on the internet today are run by individuals that are not even of age to enter into a legal contract.

    I could probably go on and on but do not want to take this thread off topic. If you have any other questions take a scroll on down to the wb hosting forum.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/index.php is a fairly good resource. The fluff to fact ratio is fairly high but with some common sense it can be seperated.



    My main concern is the cut throat nature of the industry and how it seems to affect so many into choosing poor business plans. Right now the industries image is at an all time low, well deserved I might add. The barriers to entry are so low that most hosts on the internet today are run by individuals that are not even of age to enter into a legal contract.

    I could probably go on and on but do not want to take this thread off topic. If you have any other questions take a scroll on down to the wb hosting forum.

    Dave

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    Content Sites

    Hi Dave! Hope you had a wonderful holiday season. Sorry I have been a stranger - these last three holiday months have kept me busy pulling my hair out between Murphy's Law and holiday business with my other consulting job. I have had everything happen from a car accident to a home furnace breaking down the first night of our two week long first *reeze. Then the oven decided to break down the day before Christmas when I was baking stuff to take around on my visits to friends and relatives on the big day. Don't EVEN ask me about my computer with the gremlin in it!
    Anyway, I have been constantly thinking about how to put together a good content site. I have one already working - it is a content site dealing with the pet industry or if you want to look at it another way, it also covers the "great outdoors" and hiking topic. Unfortunately, pets were not one of the topics you listed in your last reply as a "hot" topic.
    You mentioned Men's Health and Credit Counseling...
    As far as Credit Counseling, I am sure there are boatloads of people looking for info on this topic because of the depression going on right now. The only way I could develop a site on that note is if I bash Credit Counselers. I am firmly against credit counseling because it does not help one's credit in the least. It just makes people feel less guilty to be able to say they have a zero balance. Credit Counselor customers actually get raked over the coals and end up with worse credit than if they filed bankruptcy and got it over with. My credit counseling page would be more of a consumer alert page!
    So, .... that leads me to Men's Health. Ok, now you know I am a female here so please forgive my being in the dark, but exactly what do you mean by "men's health?" Are you trying to be polite instead of saying Viagra? LOL! I certainly could write boatloads of Anti-Viagra content but before I go off on that tangent, please clarify. Thanks in advance!

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    Lightbulb Tracking Systems

    Hello,

    I was investigating just how Commission Junction, LinkShare and BeFree tracking worked when I came across this thread.

    We have developed an IP Based tracking mechanism to alleviate cookie problems and would like to ask people on this thread for your input in reference to this type of tracking, such as the Pros and Cons from the view of an 'Affiliate'.

    We are taking the stance of protecting the Affiliate more than protecting the Merchant since Merchant ethics have gone down the drain and the Merchants NEED Affiliates.

    I look forward to your responses!

    Sincerely,
    Frank
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    Frank,

    I would love to find out more. I have been concerned about cookie based tracking for awhile now with all the
    cookie eating programs and parasites out there.

    Please give me a call. I am very well connected and if I like your program may be able to give you a plug.
    My number is on my site.

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    Cj

    My name is Julie and I am new to the forum. I have CJ as well as LinkShare. I have had little to no problems with eith but as Dave says, how do we know? I guess this question is posed to Dave, or whoever can answer, how do we know about cookie duration? Is there something in the code we as webmasters can look for, (other than repeat sales)

    Thanks in advance
    Julie
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    I quit letting CJ and LS rip me off years ago, maybe somebody else can help?

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    Re: Commission Junction

    I didn't read all the previous posts, but here's how I feel...

    CJ, Linkshare, & ShareAsale are a thing of the past. Big affiliate networks used to be quick, easy, and efficient for lazy webmasters to get quality affy's, but now they are nothing but pricey portals filled with parasites... CJ being beyond the worst.

    The industry is changing from networks to service providers, and at the rate things are going, all those big networks will be useless.

    You have to be a monster to get an ROI from cj with the rates they charge now. Maybe if they paid their affiliates on time they wouldn't have such a bad rap.

    Also, Julie65, what do you mean about cookie duration? It is hard coded in the tracking pixel you have to place on your confirmation page. The cookie allows a user to go through your affy link one day, come back to it (in the aloted cookie length) another day, purchase something, and have your affiliate account credited. Any program not tracking for at least 6 months isn't worth getting involved with.

    My 2 cents!

    C.Whyte
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    Re: Commission Junction

    I came here from doing a search on Commission Junction complaints. Interesting reading some of the history of these guys. My story is that I've been a Musician's Friend affiliate through beFree for a few years and have excellent commission performance during that time. BeFree was bought out by CJ last year I think. Last month CJ announced that Musician's Friend was being moved from beFree servers to Commission Junction servers on Feb 28th (2007) I had about a 2 month notice to sign up with CJ, link up that account with the beFree account, and start converting my hundreds of links to CJ links. All the while I'm still generating sales/commission on beFree that were on average of 1 sale per day. As of this week, I had converted around 50% of the site to CJ links. Running stats on the beFree side of things, I was seeing clicks and impressions drop off around 50% and sales on the beFree side drop even more (as expected). But I was also expecting to see those clicks and sales pick up on the other side with the CJ stats. Funny thing is though.....not one single sale was being shown off any of the converted CJ links....not one! CJ has yet to respond to my concern, so now I have replaced all the modified pages back to the original beFree pages so I don't lose sales or revenue. I am still stunned at how drastically screwed up the tracking was at CJ since they now own beFree. beFree seems to very accurate and reliable. While MF doesn't pay commissions as promptly as I'd like, the relationship has been great in general. This move to CJ makes me wonder why they are doing it. This could end up being a total disaster for my site.

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    Re: Commission Junction

    Every now and then I get a wild hair and begin thinking I may give them another shot...then I do research and quickly remember why I dumped these guys in the first place.
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